Good morning, yanks.

I’ve recently heard from some reddit post that Chinese international students have a bad reputation in most US universities.

So… I have a question. How are Asian international students from non-Chinese countries, like, say, Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam…etc. How are they viewed in your university?

Answers would be much needed.

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  1. I don’t think they have a bad reputation.

    The only thing I’ll say is that, in my experience, Asian students tend to only associate with Asian students (speaking about International students), so sometimes they’re kind of aloof and not as social.

  2. >I’ve recently heard from some reddit post that Chinese international students have a bad reputation in most US universities.

    news to me. I encountered international students from all over the globe at my big state school. they were all fantastic students and well liked.

  3. Fine? I don’t think anyone differentiated between Chinese and non-Chinese either.

  4. Generally fairly well. They’re stereotypically above-average students and often engage with the local social clubs (my experience may be atypical since the clubs I was part of were hobbies like gaming and anime, which obviously skew Asian).

  5. Chinese guy in the dorm freshman year stood on the toilet seats to use the bathroom. RA had to talk to him about it because it was a community bathroom

  6. They have a reputation for only hanging out with other Chinese international students, but that’s about it.

    I’ve been told they also tend to actively avoid Chinese American students but I have no direct experience with that one way or the other.

    International students, Asian or otherwise, tend to do pretty well here. How accepted each individual student is mostly just boils down to how outgoing they are.

  7. I don’t think any of those groups really have a big enough individual presence at my college to have many ideas about them as a whole.

    I guess I would say that Asian American students in general are stereotyped as being more concerned with their grades than your average student due to pressure from their family. They’re also generalized as being more represented in fields like medicine, engineering, and computer science.

  8. >I’ve recently heard from some reddit post that Chinese international students have a bad reputation in most US universities.

    Mostly because they blatantly cheat. Individually people still treated them well and would try to get to know them socially, but working with them on group projects sucked and the cheating screwed up the grading curve. Often the Chinese students would keep to themselves, so even if there are a lot of them, you might only get the chance to speak with a few of them, the others have no interest in befriending Americans.

    >So… I have a question. How are Asian international students from non-Chinese countries, like, say, Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam…etc. How are they viewed in your university?

    There weren’t enough of them for me to form an opinion. I had a Japanese girl in my German class in college. She couldn’t really speak English or German and mostly just whispered unintelligibly anytime she was called on to read or speak and eventually the instructor gave up. I have a Japanese friend from my major in college and we worked in the college IT department together for a while. He could speak english well and really wasn’t much different from any other student other than being older.

    Honestly though, college students in the US tend to be keen on learning about other countries and cultures. As long as the group doesn’t intentionally keep to themselves, the way some of the Chinese groups do, and doesn’t mind answering endless questions about what life is like back home, they’ll get along just fine.

  9. They studied a lot, and mostly kept to themselves.

    They also partied harder than anyone else I’d ever met. My roommate was Taiwanese, and he took me to a party off campus at a house where about a dozen of the Asian students lived, and it was insane.

  10. I used to be in & around Columbia in NYC (mainly for work), and that was full of Korean and Korean-American students. I never heard a thing against them.

    There was a “they hang out mostly together” thing but, tbh, I was an exchange student and we mainly hung out with eachother too, so it’s not an “Asian thing”, or an “international” thing, its a “away from home” thing.

    Why “much needed” though- is something urgent?

  11. >I’ve recently heard from some reddit post that Chinese international students have a bad reputation in most US universities.

    Do they? I don’t think anyone thinks twice about them.

    >How are Asian international students from non-Chinese countries, like, say, Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam…etc. How are they viewed in your university?

    The same as any other international student for the most part. It’s assumed that those from Asian countries who come over come from families with money (as out of state tuition is very expensive) and that they studied very hard to get in, usually with the top marks. But it isn’t a competition for most Americans so we don’t care about your personal journey for college. Everyone is pretty equal once they get accepted.

  12. You misspelled uno in the title. And honestly I wouldn’t have thought of Asians punter national students playing it but I guess they are probably good

  13. When I was in college, early 2000s they did not have a bad reputation. At most you could say they took a lot of napkins to their table and didn’t use most of them.

    Overall I don’t have many memories of international students in general.

    More recently in 2017 I had the displeasure of living nextdoor to wealthy Chinese international college students. They were terrible neighbors. And also sanitation wise pretty disgusting despite having luxury vehicles and a house full of big screen TV’s.

  14. They don’t have a bad reputation. Chinese students were stereotyped to be extremely wealthy at my university. But that kinda went with all the international students in general

  15. >good morning, yanks

    🙄

    I don’t really recall them having any kind of collective reputation.

  16. We tend to treat them as individuals.

    Some of our best friends from my wife’s graduate school were Vietnamese, Korean, Hong Konger (technically Chinese these days), and Inwas very good friends with a Malaysian coworker/grad student. We have Indian neighbors who I just chatted with in the driveway this morning and one of my good college friends was Indian.

    There is a bit of a stereotype that Chinese students can be insular and/or smug. I saw some of that.

    But, in general Americans are really predisposed to treating people as individuals no matter what preconceived notions you have. I have seen people express some very stereotyping views but still personally be friends with people in the group they stereotyped.

    There’s a terrible old cliche of “he’s one of the good one’s” and sadly it is still applicable among a small minority and thankfully disappearing.

  17. A person or bot said something vague and slightly racist on reddit?

    I went to schools in Michigan and Washington, I didn’t notice any overarching view towards any ethnic group.

    I think you might not have an understanding of how diverse the US is and how normal it is to interact with people from different backgrounds, especially in university settings, which tend to be progressive.

  18. You heard wrong.

    They’re people like anyone else. in my experience some of them hang out exclusively with other international students, but that’s natural and expected to a degree. Some are very outgoing and sweet. I don’t think there’s a specific stereotype.

  19. Next foreigner that calls all americans yanks is getting a slur thrown at them. Btw yankees were Americans from the north of America only. That be if was like “what’s up chincs” to asian people that weren’t even from China

  20. I guess I can’t answer this question. It’s only addressed to New England residents.

  21. I went to a university with one of the highest percentages of Asian international students in the US.

    The Chinese international students had a bad reputation because they wouldn’t associate with anyone outside their group, avoided speaking English, didn’t bother to learn US etiquette so they came off as very rude, and they had blatant organized cheating that the school wouldn’t do anything about because they wanted their money. They also would buy these ridiculous luxury cars for a small college town, which rubbed everyone the wrong way.

    That was really it.

    The Japanese students were very polite and respectful and went out of their way to keep a low profile, so no one had an issue with them.

    The Korean students also kept to themselves, so no one was really friends with them. They were known to be very fashionable, but standoffish in a too-cool-for-you kind of way. Still, there were outliers. I made friends with a couple.

    The Singaporean and Malaysian students spoke English so they were the most integrated. They were known for being very studious and a lot less edgy than the average American student, but chill and nice. They still kept mostly to their own, but would make more American friends too. A lot of the guys dated American women. I dated a Singaporean guy for a couple years and one of my girl friends dated a Malaysian guy.

    The Filipinos were similar. They spoke English and integrated more so people befriended them. I remember them being a little more outgoing than the other SE Asian international students. I befriended a Filipino student as well.

    I don’t think we had enough Vietnamese students to form any sort of opinion.

    Honestly, the US is so diverse that as long as you make a bare minimum effort (have passable English, research cultural etiquette and try to follow it, be friendly and try to make connections) people will be welcoming to you, especially on college campuses.

    I think where Asian international students can sometimes struggle is that US culture is very outgoing and friendly. So if they’re culturally quieter, more subdued, don’t smile as much, and keep to themselves more, US students can interpret that as unfriendliness.

    That doesn’t mean we won’t like you though. We’ll just assume that you don’t want to be friends.

    Just a cultural difference.

    Edit: Oh, I should also add that among Asian-American female students, the Korean guys were seen as hot. A lot of K-drama influence lol

  22. Honestly there wasn’t much, maybe a few Indians. My school didn’t have a lot international students to begin with, and like 99% them were Chinese.

  23. Just so you know, many Americans don’t know that other countries call us Yanks. And in the past it was common for southerners to call northerners Yanks or Yankees as a derogatory term. The term Yank doesn’t bother me, but you may find people that question the use of that word.

  24. So When I was in school, a good 40% of my graduating class in my major was from Vietnam.

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    While this may not be the case at the more prestigious universities, at mine, most were here on a patchwork of visas for a few years before school, and came over to stay with family and then applied and then shifted to a student visa.

    they were like normal Americans in my head. just trying to get their piece of the pie.

    Also this was undergrad.

  25. My alma mater had/has a robust Japanese exchange student program, they were often very polite and generally stuck together.

  26. The Chinese international students at my school *did* keep to themselves, but most of them were grad students. Most of the grad students kept to themselves regardless of nationality.

    The majority of the Asian international undergrad students were from Japan, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The Japanese kids *loved* to party, the Indonesian and Malaysian kids not so much. Also the Indonesian and Malaysian kids were pretty much getting paid by their governments to be students (their governments paid their tuition *and* they got a monthly stipend of $2k-$5k) but they all worked campus jobs anyway.

  27. I lived in a major tech university town for a long time and while I never got the vibe that many people actively disliked the large number of foreign students from Asia, they were kind of a group everyone rolled their eyes at a lot.

    They tend to bring ridiculously expensive cars to school with them (think exotics – Ferrari, McLaren, super high end AMG Mercedes) which comes off as gaudy and ostentatious. If a local kid did that they’d be laughed at as a spoiled rich kid. Same with clothes and phones and stuff – always the best versions available, usually heinously expensive stuff that no typical college student would even attempt to afford. Nothing wrong with having money and expensive tastes I suppose, but if you show up to college in a $500k car packed with $50k worth of designer clothes people are gonna notice and probably make fun of it.

    The other thing was that most of them wouldn’t integrate, like at all. They stuck in their groups and would even go as far as pretending to barely speak English despite being in an advanced college program taught exclusively in English. Also this was a largely black town in terms of locals and a number (not all but enough to definitely notice a trend) of them were quite racist.

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