I've heard that Europe's industry is being destroyed by Chinese industry. So if you guys don't work as hard as the Chinese, you may never have a chance to catch up.
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We quite enjoy having labour rights, and human rights too, thank you very much.
There is no real need for Europe’s industry to grow as much, also 996 is considered slavery even in China and is mostly present in office jobs, not industry.
Europe industry does play a fair game, both regarding to their employees and the customers. That means acting within the law, when it comes to working hours, the safety measures, the value chain, keeping good relations with suppliers. And towards the customers, whom require products made and services provided by a trustworthy, quality-oriented, and respecting source. In a short-term, cutting edges along with subsidies made by Chinese government to its local companies, has given a bit of momentum, there are however lots of conserns related to the way Chinese companies conduct, whether can they be trusted, and also if their practices are not exploitative towards their own workforce. We can seamlessly ask if China would ever catch up in how their business culture is globally perceived. What is a chance for that is already lost?
What is this BS? Where are you from? catch up with whom? When i last looked, the EU had a bigger GDP than the US and almost double that of China. So whom should we catch up with? The space Nazis on the dark side of the moon?
Check your numbers before you suggest slavery. WTF?
I used to work in France and am now in a lab in the US where I know several people from France. We all knew about all of the US’s problems when we came here, but did so anyway because we wanted to turbocharge our careers and we wanted to do cool shit that we would never be able to do in our home countries.
We now all agree that we were actually at least as, if not more productive in France than we are now in the US. This, despite the longer hours, the lack of holidays and the more repressive work environment.
Why? Because productivity isn’t just about how many hours you spend at your workplace. Quantity =/= quality. We will never be able to compete with China on being able to produce as much cheap shit as possible for foreign customers. Our economies rely on our *brains* and *creativity*. A workforce that is treated well, has leisure time and feels rewarded for their own work is going to be a more motivated and productive workforce, and spend less time idling at work while pretending to be busy.
To say nothing about the fact that a workforce that has more leisure time will also result in new jobs to *cater* to that leisure time.
European industry is fine.
Chinese industry produces raw materials and low quality products, while Europe produces complicated products. It’s not a competition between who makes better and more products, when the products are entirely different.
Nice trollpost. I think murica should adopt 997 and return ca, nm and tx to Mexico. Maybe abolish nato, dismantle all foreign military bases and return all staff to usa too for good measure. I wonder what they’d say if I posted this on askanamerican. lolol
Been there, done that, made a shitload of money out of overtime (although in my case I suppose it was technically a 666, or even a 667).
Long work hours are a thing that enhances short term productivity in low skill positions at the cost of higher turnover, theese positions also have very low productivity, high productivity positions rely on your brain, and there is only so much you can squeeze out of it in a day,
More hours destroy productivity where it matters, and where its irrelevant they can’t hope to even get close to making up what the others lose out on.
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We quite enjoy having labour rights, and human rights too, thank you very much.
There is no real need for Europe’s industry to grow as much, also 996 is considered slavery even in China and is mostly present in office jobs, not industry.
Europe industry does play a fair game, both regarding to their employees and the customers. That means acting within the law, when it comes to working hours, the safety measures, the value chain, keeping good relations with suppliers. And towards the customers, whom require products made and services provided by a trustworthy, quality-oriented, and respecting source. In a short-term, cutting edges along with subsidies made by Chinese government to its local companies, has given a bit of momentum, there are however lots of conserns related to the way Chinese companies conduct, whether can they be trusted, and also if their practices are not exploitative towards their own workforce. We can seamlessly ask if China would ever catch up in how their business culture is globally perceived. What is a chance for that is already lost?
What is this BS? Where are you from? catch up with whom? When i last looked, the EU had a bigger GDP than the US and almost double that of China. So whom should we catch up with? The space Nazis on the dark side of the moon?
Check your numbers before you suggest slavery. WTF?
I used to work in France and am now in a lab in the US where I know several people from France. We all knew about all of the US’s problems when we came here, but did so anyway because we wanted to turbocharge our careers and we wanted to do cool shit that we would never be able to do in our home countries.
We now all agree that we were actually at least as, if not more productive in France than we are now in the US. This, despite the longer hours, the lack of holidays and the more repressive work environment.
Why? Because productivity isn’t just about how many hours you spend at your workplace. Quantity =/= quality. We will never be able to compete with China on being able to produce as much cheap shit as possible for foreign customers. Our economies rely on our *brains* and *creativity*. A workforce that is treated well, has leisure time and feels rewarded for their own work is going to be a more motivated and productive workforce, and spend less time idling at work while pretending to be busy.
To say nothing about the fact that a workforce that has more leisure time will also result in new jobs to *cater* to that leisure time.
European industry is fine.
Chinese industry produces raw materials and low quality products, while Europe produces complicated products. It’s not a competition between who makes better and more products, when the products are entirely different.
Nice trollpost. I think murica should adopt 997 and return ca, nm and tx to Mexico. Maybe abolish nato, dismantle all foreign military bases and return all staff to usa too for good measure. I wonder what they’d say if I posted this on askanamerican. lolol
Been there, done that, made a shitload of money out of overtime (although in my case I suppose it was technically a 666, or even a 667).
Long work hours are a thing that enhances short term productivity in low skill positions at the cost of higher turnover, theese positions also have very low productivity, high productivity positions rely on your brain, and there is only so much you can squeeze out of it in a day,
More hours destroy productivity where it matters, and where its irrelevant they can’t hope to even get close to making up what the others lose out on.