I’m not exactly a shy person and don’t get nervous when talking to women and can even be pretty charismatic/funny in group situations. However one on one conversations always seemed like a mystery to me. I’m not the best conversationalist with guys either but it’s more forgiving when making connections with them since we can just bond by doing activities rather than talking. The same isn’t really true for forming bonds with women however with some rare exceptions. I’ve read How to win Friends and Influence people as well as this subreddit and I feel I do most of the important things like ask open ended questions and listening to them. The main issue is that most of the time I can’t really think of a follow up question or response and the convo dies out pretty quickly.