Hello Europe! I want to ask you folks an interesting question. Are there any shopping malls like that have non stop programme? I was curious if there is a place on this Earth where this concept is implemented.
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Curitiba in Brazil has a 24 hour street that’s a bit like an open air mall. It’s not in Europe, but you did say “on this earth”!
The Retail Union does not allow retail staff to work between 00–06.
So no – unless…
* They hire a bunch of friends and family members.
* They use staff-free self-service stores.
* The mall classify itself as a gas station (which falls under the Transport Union)
We used to have 24h supermarket opening (except Sunday, religious nonsense FFS). COVID kind of ended it.
before the invasion Kyiv used to have several big supermarkets open 24/7. not a shopping mall, but close enough – you could buy anything in there.
There are a few selfservice grocery stores in Norway. They are open 24/7. But for the most part grocery stores closes at 23.00 Monday to Saturday and are closed on Sundays.
Denmark: no.
Large shops (like shopping malls) are required to stay close on bank holidays and although smaller shops (including smaller supermarkets) are allowed to stay open during the night I doubt that a 24/7 open store would make much sense from a financial viewpoint. At least not the staffed ones. Staff has to receive extra payment for working during the night and the customer base seems limited.
Exceptions are kiosks, pharmacies and gas stations which are generally 24/7 open.
Doesn’t seem like a profitable proposition. Why would stores pay for a lot of staff when the customers aren’t there. Gas stations, small convenience stores and maybe one or two supermarkets in a large city, sure. But a whole mall?
I have a hard time believing that it could be calculated to be a financially good idea outside of some dictatorship with slave labor where the dictator wants to impress rich tourists.
Turkish malls are open very long (usually 10-22, also on bank holidays) but even then they close at one point.
Don’t think we have any 24/7 or night shops in the Netherlands. Can’t really think of a need for them too; most supermarkets are open from 08.00 to 21.00. And you can pretty much get anything online 24/7.
There were a few supermarkets here in Ireland that opened 24/7 but since COVID that disappeared entirely. They now are typically all closed by 10 or 11pm at the latest.
24/7 supermarkets didn’t last all the long here. They seemed to become a thing in the early 2000s sometime – quite a few places opened up with a lot of hype around them, and then quite rapidly dropped to closing at 10 or 11pm again. COVID just wiped it entirely. I remember for example one supermarket in Cork that didn’t even initially install a full lockable main door as they’d assumed they’d be open 24/7/365!! In reality, that lasted about 6 weeks lol
The costs of keeping them open through the night just didn’t add up.
A very small number of convenience stores stay open 24/7 these days.
Shops here can open/close whenever they like – it comes down to supply/demand and costs rather than regulation. Only bars and alcohol sales are regulated in terms of opening hours. In a lot of parts of Europe however, there are tight rules around opening hours, and a lot of countries still have Sunday trading restrictions for historical religious reasons. Sunday’s been a major shopping day in Ireland for as long as I can remember.
In Lithuania there are a few small self-service 24×7 stores scattered in the city center and old town of Vilnius. There also was one big supermarket open 24×7 next to the old town (“Mindaugo Maxima”), but since covid it shortened its working hours to 7 AM – midnight (not working on first Christmas day, first Easter day and New Year, shorter hours during some others).
The Netherlands no not really, Finland on the other hand has bangers such as Prisma and Citymarket, they’re gigantic all-in-one stores and especially near Helsinki some operate 24/7
No. After the fall of the “Ladenschlussgesetz” in Germany, some big markets tried it, but it never paid out. There is no need for 23/6 (No sundays) mall or supermarkets in Germany.
Back when it became possible I worked in Cologne, in one of the busiest, most international quarters, with international students and all the possible customers. There was one supermarket from a big chain who tried it, but gave it up after a short time.
In the big cities, like Cologne, you have the railway stations, where some shops are open around the clock, and also small owner run stores, like American convenience stores, wher you can get the most important thing on a few square meters. They are named different, depending on the region. “Kiosk” mostly, in Cologne “Büdchen”, or “Späti” or “Spätkauf” in Easters Germany.
Büdchen: from Minimization of “Bude”= room, hut, shock. Means “Tiny shack”
Soäti from Spätkauf = Late shopping
But most of them don’t open 24/7.
We have some Citymarkets and Prismas that are 24/7. I remember, when they started popping up after some law changes and always thought it would be the most unprofitable thing ever, but apparently not.
One thing I miss about the COVID lockdown period is 24/7 shops. Gosh it was so convenient that you could go shopping anytime. Though I’m not sure it was profitable for the stores and whether they had enough staff to cover for the graveyard shifts.
Not at all,thankfully. The only ones I know of that are open 24/7 are rest stops at the highway’s gas stations, and for a good reason.
Any other shop in Italy closes after 8/9 pm. There’s no need for 24/7 shops, they’re open for 12/13 hours every day as it is, asking the poor employees for more is inhumane,not to mention way too expensive for store companies.
In Finland, specifically the Helsinki metro area most malls are closed for around 5 hours, even less if they have a Metro station. Some hypermarkets like my local Prisma are open 24/7 while restocking, but just one register. I think it started during lockdown when they advertised old people could go shopping at night.
None that I’m aware off in NL, certainly not entire malls, the grocery stores near me are open from 07:00 ’till 22:00 on most days, when they’re in a shopping centre there may be one or two other stores open at similar times, and if needed there’s a “night” shop open ’till 02:00.
The only other “shops” I can think of are fuel stations which can be open 24/7 in certain areas outside highways, and a McDonalds (or equivalent) here and there in weekends and maybe some take out restaurants, like kebab places, but really unsure about the latter.
Malls no but we have 24/7 service stations and supermarkets. There used to be a couple of 24h coffee shops but covid and the housing crisis did away with them.
I live in Prague. There are two 24/7 malls (OC Eden in Prague 10 and OC Letňany in Prague 9).
They are only closed on a few holidays a year by law, but they are immune to some holidays (I haven’t figured out a pattern yet which holidays cause them to be closed).
Anyway, I love to go shopping late at night – you meet only a few people, no waiting times etc.
No, in The Netherlands this is not a thing. Actually during week days most shops closed at 6. And on Sundays shops often are often closed as well.
Finland has some Prisma and Citymarket “hypermarkets” open 24/7/365. It’s nice if you absolutely need to get an eBike or a vacuum cleaner on Sunday morning at 02:30.
Edit: There are also 24/7/365 service stations (ABC) with a cateteria, restaurants (usually a couple of different types), a supermarket (not of the size of Prisma though) and other shops. They are like malls in a way, but not all shops in them are 24h, you can always get food though.
It was tried in the UK in the late 90s or early 2000s in some supermarkets. it died a death. Occasionally one or two will stay open 23-24th Dec but that’s the only time.
Shopping malls in Portugal are usually open from 9:00 or 10:00 until 22:00, 23:00 or 24:00, depending on the cases. This is usually all days of the year, including weekends and holidays, except on Christimas Eve and New Years Eve, where they usually close earlier (around 18:00-19:00 or so, depending on the case).
There are no 24/7 malls here, afaik, and I don’t believe they’d be much needed, tbh.
24×7 supermarkets are common in Russia, but malls? The opening times are usually 10-22 or 10-23 if it’s a big one. The biggest one is still open only until 22, though.
None that I’m aware of, and certainly not malls.
Gas stations have convenience stores that in some case might be open all night, but I’m not sure.
In Japan, all convenience stores are open 24/7. There is a big grocery supermarket open 24/7 in Shenzhen, China. Also, Helsinki airport has 24/7 supermarket on the land side (Alepa Airport). I am really surprised about China, 24/7 supermarket is the most capitalistic thing ever, yet one can find one in China.
UK, there are a few 24 hour supermarkets (by a few I mean a handful across the country). We do have mini convenience stores attached/in most Petrol stations, with many of those operating 24hours.
They had for a little bit in Denmark, but noone used it. 24/7 gas stations usually stock a bit of basic foods, bread, milk etc.
There were a chain of mega stores (Bilka) that tried that in Denmark, I think (or at least until midnight), but they stopped again as it wasn’t profitable.
Not here in Bulgaria, although we do have some 24 hour restaurants.
Only place I’ve seen anything like this is was on vacation at a casino hotel in Las Vegas.
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Curitiba in Brazil has a 24 hour street that’s a bit like an open air mall. It’s not in Europe, but you did say “on this earth”!
The Retail Union does not allow retail staff to work between 00–06.
So no – unless…
* They hire a bunch of friends and family members.
* They use staff-free self-service stores.
* The mall classify itself as a gas station (which falls under the Transport Union)
We used to have 24h supermarket opening (except Sunday, religious nonsense FFS). COVID kind of ended it.
before the invasion Kyiv used to have several big supermarkets open 24/7. not a shopping mall, but close enough – you could buy anything in there.
There are a few selfservice grocery stores in Norway. They are open 24/7. But for the most part grocery stores closes at 23.00 Monday to Saturday and are closed on Sundays.
Denmark: no.
Large shops (like shopping malls) are required to stay close on bank holidays and although smaller shops (including smaller supermarkets) are allowed to stay open during the night I doubt that a 24/7 open store would make much sense from a financial viewpoint. At least not the staffed ones. Staff has to receive extra payment for working during the night and the customer base seems limited.
Exceptions are kiosks, pharmacies and gas stations which are generally 24/7 open.
Doesn’t seem like a profitable proposition. Why would stores pay for a lot of staff when the customers aren’t there. Gas stations, small convenience stores and maybe one or two supermarkets in a large city, sure. But a whole mall?
I have a hard time believing that it could be calculated to be a financially good idea outside of some dictatorship with slave labor where the dictator wants to impress rich tourists.
Turkish malls are open very long (usually 10-22, also on bank holidays) but even then they close at one point.
Don’t think we have any 24/7 or night shops in the Netherlands. Can’t really think of a need for them too; most supermarkets are open from 08.00 to 21.00. And you can pretty much get anything online 24/7.
There were a few supermarkets here in Ireland that opened 24/7 but since COVID that disappeared entirely. They now are typically all closed by 10 or 11pm at the latest.
24/7 supermarkets didn’t last all the long here. They seemed to become a thing in the early 2000s sometime – quite a few places opened up with a lot of hype around them, and then quite rapidly dropped to closing at 10 or 11pm again. COVID just wiped it entirely. I remember for example one supermarket in Cork that didn’t even initially install a full lockable main door as they’d assumed they’d be open 24/7/365!! In reality, that lasted about 6 weeks lol
The costs of keeping them open through the night just didn’t add up.
A very small number of convenience stores stay open 24/7 these days.
Shops here can open/close whenever they like – it comes down to supply/demand and costs rather than regulation. Only bars and alcohol sales are regulated in terms of opening hours. In a lot of parts of Europe however, there are tight rules around opening hours, and a lot of countries still have Sunday trading restrictions for historical religious reasons. Sunday’s been a major shopping day in Ireland for as long as I can remember.
In Lithuania there are a few small self-service 24×7 stores scattered in the city center and old town of Vilnius. There also was one big supermarket open 24×7 next to the old town (“Mindaugo Maxima”), but since covid it shortened its working hours to 7 AM – midnight (not working on first Christmas day, first Easter day and New Year, shorter hours during some others).
The Netherlands no not really, Finland on the other hand has bangers such as Prisma and Citymarket, they’re gigantic all-in-one stores and especially near Helsinki some operate 24/7
No. After the fall of the “Ladenschlussgesetz” in Germany, some big markets tried it, but it never paid out. There is no need for 23/6 (No sundays) mall or supermarkets in Germany.
Back when it became possible I worked in Cologne, in one of the busiest, most international quarters, with international students and all the possible customers. There was one supermarket from a big chain who tried it, but gave it up after a short time.
In the big cities, like Cologne, you have the railway stations, where some shops are open around the clock, and also small owner run stores, like American convenience stores, wher you can get the most important thing on a few square meters. They are named different, depending on the region. “Kiosk” mostly, in Cologne “Büdchen”, or “Späti” or “Spätkauf” in Easters Germany.
Büdchen: from Minimization of “Bude”= room, hut, shock. Means “Tiny shack”
Soäti from Spätkauf = Late shopping
But most of them don’t open 24/7.
We have some Citymarkets and Prismas that are 24/7. I remember, when they started popping up after some law changes and always thought it would be the most unprofitable thing ever, but apparently not.
One thing I miss about the COVID lockdown period is 24/7 shops. Gosh it was so convenient that you could go shopping anytime. Though I’m not sure it was profitable for the stores and whether they had enough staff to cover for the graveyard shifts.
Not at all,thankfully. The only ones I know of that are open 24/7 are rest stops at the highway’s gas stations, and for a good reason.
Any other shop in Italy closes after 8/9 pm. There’s no need for 24/7 shops, they’re open for 12/13 hours every day as it is, asking the poor employees for more is inhumane,not to mention way too expensive for store companies.
In Finland, specifically the Helsinki metro area most malls are closed for around 5 hours, even less if they have a Metro station. Some hypermarkets like my local Prisma are open 24/7 while restocking, but just one register. I think it started during lockdown when they advertised old people could go shopping at night.
None that I’m aware off in NL, certainly not entire malls, the grocery stores near me are open from 07:00 ’till 22:00 on most days, when they’re in a shopping centre there may be one or two other stores open at similar times, and if needed there’s a “night” shop open ’till 02:00.
The only other “shops” I can think of are fuel stations which can be open 24/7 in certain areas outside highways, and a McDonalds (or equivalent) here and there in weekends and maybe some take out restaurants, like kebab places, but really unsure about the latter.
Malls no but we have 24/7 service stations and supermarkets. There used to be a couple of 24h coffee shops but covid and the housing crisis did away with them.
I live in Prague. There are two 24/7 malls (OC Eden in Prague 10 and OC Letňany in Prague 9).
They are only closed on a few holidays a year by law, but they are immune to some holidays (I haven’t figured out a pattern yet which holidays cause them to be closed).
Anyway, I love to go shopping late at night – you meet only a few people, no waiting times etc.
No, in The Netherlands this is not a thing. Actually during week days most shops closed at 6. And on Sundays shops often are often closed as well.
Finland has some Prisma and Citymarket “hypermarkets” open 24/7/365. It’s nice if you absolutely need to get an eBike or a vacuum cleaner on Sunday morning at 02:30.
Edit: There are also 24/7/365 service stations (ABC) with a cateteria, restaurants (usually a couple of different types), a supermarket (not of the size of Prisma though) and other shops. They are like malls in a way, but not all shops in them are 24h, you can always get food though.
It was tried in the UK in the late 90s or early 2000s in some supermarkets. it died a death. Occasionally one or two will stay open 23-24th Dec but that’s the only time.
Shopping malls in Portugal are usually open from 9:00 or 10:00 until 22:00, 23:00 or 24:00, depending on the cases. This is usually all days of the year, including weekends and holidays, except on Christimas Eve and New Years Eve, where they usually close earlier (around 18:00-19:00 or so, depending on the case).
There are no 24/7 malls here, afaik, and I don’t believe they’d be much needed, tbh.
24×7 supermarkets are common in Russia, but malls? The opening times are usually 10-22 or 10-23 if it’s a big one. The biggest one is still open only until 22, though.
None that I’m aware of, and certainly not malls.
Gas stations have convenience stores that in some case might be open all night, but I’m not sure.
In Japan, all convenience stores are open 24/7. There is a big grocery supermarket open 24/7 in Shenzhen, China. Also, Helsinki airport has 24/7 supermarket on the land side (Alepa Airport). I am really surprised about China, 24/7 supermarket is the most capitalistic thing ever, yet one can find one in China.
UK, there are a few 24 hour supermarkets (by a few I mean a handful across the country). We do have mini convenience stores attached/in most Petrol stations, with many of those operating 24hours.
They had for a little bit in Denmark, but noone used it. 24/7 gas stations usually stock a bit of basic foods, bread, milk etc.
There were a chain of mega stores (Bilka) that tried that in Denmark, I think (or at least until midnight), but they stopped again as it wasn’t profitable.
Not here in Bulgaria, although we do have some 24 hour restaurants.
Only place I’ve seen anything like this is was on vacation at a casino hotel in Las Vegas.