Which lgbt person is the most important/famous in your country?
July 15, 2024
It can be from any area, not just culture.
21 comments
Peter Pellegrini, our current president.
Note: although he never publicly admitted it, it’s a known secret here.
That would propably be Frederick the Great (although afaik there is some debate over what his sexual orientation actually was. The consensus on reddit seems to be that he was very gay, the historian Christopher Clark described him as propably ace iirc, where the current academic consensus lies I have no idea, but whatever he was, he wasn’t heterosexual).
Famous in general?
Alfons Haider, gay TV moderator. Probably not that well known among younger people.
Thomas Brezina, gay author mostly known for children’s books.
Or famous in connection with being queer?
Conchita Wurst, a drag queen and generally gender-fluid artist, winner of ESC a while ago.
NL: Rob Jetten, leader of the social liberal progressive party D66 and minister of climate and energy in the previous government under Mark Rutte.
Probably Hans Christian Andersen though his sexual orientation is HIGHLY up for debate.
Nobel Literature Prize winner Karen Blixen/Isaak Dinesen was bi but I don’t know how important she is to Danish cilture nowadays.
Lili Elbe was a transgender artist who died in 1931. Her life was turned into the film The Danish Girl (controversially starring non-LGBTQIA+ actor Eddie Redmayne).
the only celebraty i know of that is part of lgbtq stuff is conchita wurst. that lady with a beard. won the song context for us. but i never cared about eurovision
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Alan Turing.
Broke into and intercepted the messages of the Nazi Enigma machine, providing the British with a tsunami of valuable, often life-saving intelligence, only to be convicted of homosexuality and chemically castrated in 1952, later committing suicide in 1954.
He was granted a posthumous Royal Pardon in 2013, 59 years after his death.
We have Emil Rengle that is a dancer and is pretty popular, but most important?
Our country is still massively against LGBT, they don’t even have some (or any) rights unlike other countries. So it’s in a Grey zone.
I feel like Robert Biedroń and his husband (not recognised) Krzysztof Śmiszek are the most recognisable gays. Biedroń is the leader of “The Left” party and the first openly homosexual member of Sejm in history and he is one of the central figures in founding a lot of lqbt+ organisations. He and his husband just became members of european parlament if anybody’s interested
Dirk Bogarde was a highly popular British screen star with charm and good looks, though arguably not considered to be the most serious of actors. Contracted to the Rank Organisation, he played romantic leads and occasional villains in 1950’s mainstream dramas and comedies and was even considered for the role of James Bond. In 1961 he left Rank and in a huge change of direction, starred in a film called ‘Victim’ giving an incredibly powerful performance as a married barrister who takes on blackmailers targeting then illegal, homosexual men which in turn exposes his own homosexual feelings and risks his marriage and reputation. The film certainly had a positive effect on the public view of homosexuality and contributed to the change in attitudes which led to the legalisation of homosexuality in 1967.
Though Bogarde never officially ‘came out’, nobody who saw that film had much doubt that his own life experiences contributed to the intensity of the portrayal. There was a high degree of personal risk as at the time he was already living with his male partner and continued to do so. There was also risk in career terms as his matinee idol status was effectively ended but the performance also proved his abilities as a serious actor which opened the door to more complex roles in art-house movies.
Oscar Wilde: because of his literary work and his persecution
Roger Casement: anti-imperial activist. Was a unionist but exposed Belgian atrocities in the Congo, and exploitation in Brazil, came to reevaluate the impact of the British empire in his own homeland and ended up supporting the Irish Republican Brotherhood in the lead up to the 1916 rising.
Not that many LGBT persons from Serbia I can remember off-hand, but the first one that came to my mind was a WWI general [Petar Zivkovich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petar_%C5%BDivkovi%C4%87), who fought in the WW1.
As a member of the secret organization called “Crna ruka” (Black Hand), he conspired against the Serbian King Alexander I Obrenovich in the May Coup, who was killed alongside his wife that had ended the Obrenovich dynasty, and much more.
He was a highly positioned military general, and Prime minister in the interwar period in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Pretty much a loyalist to the ruling Karadjordjevich dynasty until very end..
He never married nor had children, but it was publicly known that he was a homosexual, and allegedly sexually molested some soldiers during WWI. Common folk used to call him “Pera peder” or “Pete the f*g” in English.
We can say that Zivkovich was a power and influential person in politics and military circles throught his life, despite being gay was a big no-no in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia at the time.
**josé castelo branco** is the b for bicha. basically he dresses like a woman and did a lot of botox and stuff in his face to look more feminine but he is a man married to a super old rich woman. idk if he technically counts as lgbt by definition, hes more like a transvestite ig but he definitely should count lol
“normal” lgbt we have **cláudio ramos** and **manuel luís goucha** both very famous gay tv hosts
edit: he’s dead but i think **antónio variações** (musician) is *the* portuguese gay icon
For the Netherlands: Possibly king William the second. He seems to have been bisexual, which allegedly led to him being blackmailed into signing the constitution of 1848, which turned the Netherlands into a parliamentary democracy.
It’s either our former prime minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir or the fabulously gay singer Páll Óskar.
Important would be Gabriel Attal our prime minister.
Famous aside from our PM I would say Stephane Bern which is a journalist who loves royalty and presented various TV shows on the topic, the most famous show being « secrets d’histoire » which is a quite good show about the personal life of various historical figures.
Magnus Hirschfeld, started the first organised LGBT-movement in Berlin.
Rosa von Praunheim was very important in West Germany, as they kept the Nazi version of §175 and persecuted homosexuals.
Klaus Wowereit outed himself in public in 2001 when he was a candidate for the mayor of Berlin.
Robert Biedroń, MEP, he came into parliament in 2011, earlier an activist, first openly gay mp during time, when being gay was still a controversial issue itself. Then he won a mayoral elections in 2014 and defeated an incumbent, which came as a suprise, in 2019 he started his own party, but it didn’t meet the expectations(got 6% or the vote), then joined the left and since 2019 he’s still reelected, MEP to this day.
For the former GDR, it would have to be trans woman Charlotte von Mahlsdorf. Who offered her exhibition space of early twentieth century furniture as meeting space for the nascent LGBT community. These led to the Sonntag-Club for the LGBT community in East Berlin, which still exists today.
Elio di Rupo, former prime minister of Belgium, he was also minister-president of Wallonia or French-speaking community (or maybe both) and president of the socialist party for a long time.
21 comments
Peter Pellegrini, our current president.
Note: although he never publicly admitted it, it’s a known secret here.
That would propably be Frederick the Great (although afaik there is some debate over what his sexual orientation actually was. The consensus on reddit seems to be that he was very gay, the historian Christopher Clark described him as propably ace iirc, where the current academic consensus lies I have no idea, but whatever he was, he wasn’t heterosexual).
Famous in general?
Alfons Haider, gay TV moderator. Probably not that well known among younger people.
Thomas Brezina, gay author mostly known for children’s books.
Or famous in connection with being queer?
Conchita Wurst, a drag queen and generally gender-fluid artist, winner of ESC a while ago.
NL: Rob Jetten, leader of the social liberal progressive party D66 and minister of climate and energy in the previous government under Mark Rutte.
Probably Hans Christian Andersen though his sexual orientation is HIGHLY up for debate.
Nobel Literature Prize winner Karen Blixen/Isaak Dinesen was bi but I don’t know how important she is to Danish cilture nowadays.
Lili Elbe was a transgender artist who died in 1931. Her life was turned into the film The Danish Girl (controversially starring non-LGBTQIA+ actor Eddie Redmayne).
the only celebraty i know of that is part of lgbtq stuff is conchita wurst. that lady with a beard. won the song context for us. but i never cared about eurovision
[deleted]
Alan Turing.
Broke into and intercepted the messages of the Nazi Enigma machine, providing the British with a tsunami of valuable, often life-saving intelligence, only to be convicted of homosexuality and chemically castrated in 1952, later committing suicide in 1954.
He was granted a posthumous Royal Pardon in 2013, 59 years after his death.
We have Emil Rengle that is a dancer and is pretty popular, but most important?
Our country is still massively against LGBT, they don’t even have some (or any) rights unlike other countries. So it’s in a Grey zone.
I feel like Robert Biedroń and his husband (not recognised) Krzysztof Śmiszek are the most recognisable gays. Biedroń is the leader of “The Left” party and the first openly homosexual member of Sejm in history and he is one of the central figures in founding a lot of lqbt+ organisations. He and his husband just became members of european parlament if anybody’s interested
Dirk Bogarde was a highly popular British screen star with charm and good looks, though arguably not considered to be the most serious of actors. Contracted to the Rank Organisation, he played romantic leads and occasional villains in 1950’s mainstream dramas and comedies and was even considered for the role of James Bond. In 1961 he left Rank and in a huge change of direction, starred in a film called ‘Victim’ giving an incredibly powerful performance as a married barrister who takes on blackmailers targeting then illegal, homosexual men which in turn exposes his own homosexual feelings and risks his marriage and reputation. The film certainly had a positive effect on the public view of homosexuality and contributed to the change in attitudes which led to the legalisation of homosexuality in 1967.
Though Bogarde never officially ‘came out’, nobody who saw that film had much doubt that his own life experiences contributed to the intensity of the portrayal. There was a high degree of personal risk as at the time he was already living with his male partner and continued to do so. There was also risk in career terms as his matinee idol status was effectively ended but the performance also proved his abilities as a serious actor which opened the door to more complex roles in art-house movies.
Oscar Wilde: because of his literary work and his persecution
Roger Casement: anti-imperial activist. Was a unionist but exposed Belgian atrocities in the Congo, and exploitation in Brazil, came to reevaluate the impact of the British empire in his own homeland and ended up supporting the Irish Republican Brotherhood in the lead up to the 1916 rising.
Not that many LGBT persons from Serbia I can remember off-hand, but the first one that came to my mind was a WWI general [Petar Zivkovich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petar_%C5%BDivkovi%C4%87), who fought in the WW1.
As a member of the secret organization called “Crna ruka” (Black Hand), he conspired against the Serbian King Alexander I Obrenovich in the May Coup, who was killed alongside his wife that had ended the Obrenovich dynasty, and much more.
He was a highly positioned military general, and Prime minister in the interwar period in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Pretty much a loyalist to the ruling Karadjordjevich dynasty until very end..
He never married nor had children, but it was publicly known that he was a homosexual, and allegedly sexually molested some soldiers during WWI. Common folk used to call him “Pera peder” or “Pete the f*g” in English.
We can say that Zivkovich was a power and influential person in politics and military circles throught his life, despite being gay was a big no-no in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia at the time.
**josé castelo branco** is the b for bicha. basically he dresses like a woman and did a lot of botox and stuff in his face to look more feminine but he is a man married to a super old rich woman. idk if he technically counts as lgbt by definition, hes more like a transvestite ig but he definitely should count lol
“normal” lgbt we have **cláudio ramos** and **manuel luís goucha** both very famous gay tv hosts
edit: he’s dead but i think **antónio variações** (musician) is *the* portuguese gay icon
For the Netherlands: Possibly king William the second. He seems to have been bisexual, which allegedly led to him being blackmailed into signing the constitution of 1848, which turned the Netherlands into a parliamentary democracy.
It’s either our former prime minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir or the fabulously gay singer Páll Óskar.
Important would be Gabriel Attal our prime minister.
Famous aside from our PM I would say Stephane Bern which is a journalist who loves royalty and presented various TV shows on the topic, the most famous show being « secrets d’histoire » which is a quite good show about the personal life of various historical figures.
Magnus Hirschfeld, started the first organised LGBT-movement in Berlin.
Rosa von Praunheim was very important in West Germany, as they kept the Nazi version of §175 and persecuted homosexuals.
Klaus Wowereit outed himself in public in 2001 when he was a candidate for the mayor of Berlin.
Robert Biedroń, MEP, he came into parliament in 2011, earlier an activist, first openly gay mp during time, when being gay was still a controversial issue itself. Then he won a mayoral elections in 2014 and defeated an incumbent, which came as a suprise, in 2019 he started his own party, but it didn’t meet the expectations(got 6% or the vote), then joined the left and since 2019 he’s still reelected, MEP to this day.
For the former GDR, it would have to be trans woman Charlotte von Mahlsdorf. Who offered her exhibition space of early twentieth century furniture as meeting space for the nascent LGBT community. These led to the Sonntag-Club for the LGBT community in East Berlin, which still exists today.
Elio di Rupo, former prime minister of Belgium, he was also minister-president of Wallonia or French-speaking community (or maybe both) and president of the socialist party for a long time.